Is Santander's new Upfront Interest Bond a good idea?

by , 6 months ago

Santander have brought out a new savings bond that pays the interest upfront. Your money then stays locked away earning no more interest for 3 years (and being eroded by inflation!) You have to deposit at least £10,000, and the interest rate is a not exactly generous 3.36%. If you invest £12,000 you will get £1,000 (after tax) upfront.

So, what do you all think...a good idea? A bad idea? Or just a gimmick with no real advantage?

Responses (10)

In theory it's a good idea as it's giving you the money earlier but personally I'm not sure I'd opt for it, I don't really like the idea of the money being sat in Santander's account for that time after having already had the reward.

by Pete, 6 months ago

Nor me, Pete!

by fruitcake, 6 months ago

It's basically like a reverse personal loan, where they add the interest first, then take equal monthly payments over 3 years.

It's a great idea for Santander - if Spanish banks get squeezed and if people start to move their money elsewhere, they'll have a bit more cash locked in than they otherwise would.

It would be a brilliant idea for people who didn't need to touch their savings for 3 years, but the rate is tight, compared to say the Post Office.

Hopefully these types of innovation will prompt others to give even better deals.

by wojtek, 6 months ago

I agree with you Wojtek. The idea of being totally locked into a Spanish bank for three years would make me think twice. I have fears for the Eurozone countries over the next few years and also think that there could be inflation in that timescale.

by Sidesalad, 6 months ago

Yes, wojtek, I see what you mean about a reverse loan, and I agree it's good to see some innovation from banks.

Sidesalad, that would be my fear too.

by fruitcake, 6 months ago

It depends on the market as 3.36% isn't fantastic and you would be locking your money away for three year's and the interest on the Bond could go up and you have it tied up. You will probably have spent that interest so you have nothing extra at the end. I know you can't have it all ways. I did that with my Isa which is fixed rate until next year but if I hadn't I could be getting more now but at the time it was the best rate going.

by Sabre, 6 months ago

I agree, Sabre, the rate isn't exactly exciting, and I'm not keen on locking savings up for too long either.

by fruitcake, 6 months ago

I'm not that keen on this. As i think if i had spare £10,000 and i know i won't need it for three years perhaps i would be inclined to go for it but then you recieve the interest upfront which you wouldn't need as you had the £10,000 spare... I personally would like a bit more interest or incentive.

by serena1, 6 months ago

Yes, Serena, it's a glorified personal loan, and those that have £10,000+ they don't need for three years would probably just use a bit of their savings, so I'm not sure exactly who it's aimed at.

by fruitcake, 6 months ago

I favour your last option fruity, It sounds a tad gimmicky and going nowhere.
I too wouldn't like to know that Santander was sitting on my money for that amount of time and giving me nothing back in the long run.
Thus I would expect more back from the initial 12 grand than just a paltry £1,000.
What do you think?

by LILLIE, 6 months ago

I agree, Lillie, I see it as a gimmick too, but am curious to see what others think.

by fruitcake, 6 months ago

santander took over Abbey, who I was once with but never again, nearly every month money used to disappear from our account but they never did anything about it, we switched banks quick

by Snowdragon, 6 months ago

I've personally found Santander's customer service appalling too, Snowdragon.

by fruitcake, 6 months ago

Santander's have a dreadful name for not being very good with customer service. They came bottom of the list a few month's ago.

by Sabre, 6 months ago

Santander also took over Alliance and Leicester who we were with for many years with no problems at all. Since they got their hands on it they've never been quite the same.

by LILLIE, 6 months ago

Yes, they took over the Halifax in our next village which means we have to go miles to another branch of Halifax. We were going to go to Santanders but heard about their reputation.

by Sabre, 6 months ago

I only had to put up with Santander because they took over the Abbey who I had an account with, I closed the account with Santander at the first opportunity as their customer service was dreadful.

by fruitcake, 6 months ago

My good friend works for santander and is a relationship manager and she is a lovely gentle person and she always is saying how staff around her are messing accounts up!! I've never banked with them do not intend to either!

by serena1, 6 months ago

Your last sentence sums it up admirably fruitcake.

by AlwynP, 6 months ago

Thank you, that seems to be the general concensus here, Alwyn, although it's good to see a bank being innovative.

by fruitcake, 6 months ago

It is a good guide for one's discipline to saving consistently for 3 years.

by creativesaver, 6 months ago

I was with A&E for number of years and I must admit they were excellent. Since Santander took over I've not been happy with Spain owning something else that used to British but just left my money stagnating because there is no alternative as I don't want to lock my money away for 3 year periods. What is the best deal out there at the moment?

by portbo, 5 months ago

To be honest, portbo, the best rates are if you are prepared to lock your money away. Have a look at 2 year bonds, Cahoot are offering a good rate...

http://www.money.co.uk/savings-accounts/2-year-fixed-rate-bonds.htm

by fruitcake, 5 months ago

A terrible idea because;
It is relatively tricky for the ordinary man in the street to weigh up whether this is a better or worse investment than another straight forward product. Any product which as a result of its designed features makes true comparisons difficult is obviously going to benefit the provider more than the customer. (Remember why APR was brought in). I would be deeply suspicious of the provider because I have never heard of any customer driven requests for "interest upfront".In the circumstances this is IMHO a very clever ruse by the provider to garner funds on a 3y term at less than the market rate. Good for them and their profits, terrible for the customer.I actually think this is so bad it should be outlawed and the regulator should tell them to pull it. Santander is already on my BLACKLIST but if it wasn't it would be added just for this. Far too sneaky and devious in my opinion. In general be VERY suspicious of anything new, different, innovative because 99 / 100 I reckon it will not be good for the customers.
PS It would be very interesting to know how the FSCS do the calulation if Santander go bust halfway through the 3y term.
Shall we ask them. Anyone like to bet they havn't even thought about it yet ?

by ihateavatars, 3 months ago

Good comments, ihateavatars!

by fruitcake, 3 months ago

Must admit I hadn't thought about the FSCS issue, good point, personally I'd steer well clear!

by Pete, 3 months ago

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