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I was pleased when I first heard about this for a few reasons one being to save money, also for various other 'green' issues.
Then I started to worry that there would be an increase in crime and/or accidents so I couldn't make up my mind whether this is a good thing or bad.
I suppose I agree with one council who turns them off between midnight and 5.00 am after all most of us are tucked up in bed by then.
I wonder do you have any thoughts on this or do you just feel it doesn't affect you?
Thanks for any opinions at all.
Doesn't affect me as there are no street lights for miles ......... so logically it is therefore not essential to have street lights on (as many people have none anyway) so switching them off must be a good thing. Perhaps not in cities where dodgy-types might lurk in dark corners though???
I suppose it depends on the circumstances lillie. Young people walking
the streets late at night are very much at risk if the areas are known
to be dangerous. Where I live I don't think they need to be on
as late as they are as there is hardly anyone about and most of the
properties have security lights and porch lights etc. so it would not
be all that dark. I wonder how much they will save?
I think in the long run some places might benefit from it Sabre, quite how much I suppose remains to be seen.
Oh, back to the 1970's!
We don't have streetlights where I live, but I remember living in London when everything was switched off.
No street lights for miles around here, but then no pavements or anywhere to walk to either. Sure I read somewhere that some councils dim them between certain hours and maybe thats an acceptable compromise. It was only when I moved to the country that I realised how much light pollution there was even in the town I lived in before.
Thanks Jazzj the light pollution is indeed a nuisance for the stargazers amongst us.
I don't think it's a good idea in towns and cities. It'll definitely lead to more crime. I don't even think dimming the lights is a good idea. Even motion sensors would be dodgy - you'd be telegraphing you were approaching from quite some distance away, while the mugger / rapist / murderer wouldn't trigger anything as they'd be hidden in a nice, dark unlit corner somewhere.
I'd be tucked up in bed at that time so unlikely to get mugged, but the amount of burgularies would be bound to go up..or householders put in their own sercuriy lighting which passes the cost from the council to the individual
Oh it's all too worrying, I wonder what the statistics will tell us. Will crime increase, will the accident toll rise, will savings ultimately be made ??? Thanks G-Man and Jazzj.
Our street lights have been turned off in many places but kept on at approaches to roundabouts and any vulnerable areas. It seems to be working well and the council have put them back on in some places if people thought they should be on. Generally I think there are too many lights on so to switch some off seems a good idea. In some roads they've just switched alternate lights off so it's well enough lit.
Thanks roseangel, good to hear it's working out ok.
I like the idea of alternate lights being turned off.
I thought this was a good idea, Lillie, until last weekend, when I was at a friend's house and left to drive home very late at night. The street lights in my friend's street are turned off late evening, and I had to reverse out of a tight parking space, with other cars parked next to me, turn round and drive to the nearest main road in pitch darkness! The road was lined with parked cars, some not very well parked, and some on bends etc. What a nightmare!
I had my headlights on at full beam, but still had to drive at a geriatric snail's pace to avoid hitting any of the cars. Frankly, if anyone had walked out into the road or suddenly got out of their car, I probably wouldn't have seen them! And I'm well used to driving on very dark, rural roads and lanes, some single track, with no streetlights. I can honestly say it was a scary and stressful experience!
Sounds awful Fruity. I don't know what the answer is to this, but I expect the stats in the long run will show many road as well as pedestrian accidents.
Good to know you made it back in one piece.
A very good point fruity. You could have injured yourself
and others just for the sake of keeping a few lights on
a bit later. I don't think the Council's have looked into
the problem sufficiently and just decide "Oh we'll turn
those off" instead of giving it more thought.
They do this in my area but fail to moniter the street lighting thats burning during daylight hours I have personaly emaied the local authority on several occasions reporting the lights on in the daytime.
A good point about the daytime burners Noddy, we in fact have a hotline number to call in that eventuality. Thank you.
At first thought I like the idea of less street lighting both as a money and fuel-saving option and to reduce 'light pollution' that stops us from seeing the night skies and affects wildlife. But I live in a quiet rural area and we have no street lights in our road anyway so this issue does not affect me directly. If I lived in the inner city, however, I would probably be scared stiff to walk at night if there was no lighting because of the fear of attack.
People would have to take much greater care to wear high-visibility jackets and perhaps always carry a torch if councils do decide to reduce lighting further.
Thank you Sidesalad, over the years we've lost count the near misses we've had with poorly lit cyclists and pedestrians.
If this is a great inconvenience (i.e disability/old age, lone lady in the house living in an isolation area like the counryside) leading to a safty issue, you can ask the local authority to leave on the light immediately outside your house on. All they do is disconnect the timmer and leave the lamp on a sensor so it comes on and stays on during the darkness.
Thanks, annaa, that's very useful to know. :-)
Thank you annaa, that's interesting and sounds easy and cheap enough to implement, I wonder why more councils haven't adopted the idea.
Oh that sounds a sensible solution annas!
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I was hoping they would come up with some sort of alternative, maybe a sensor of some kind fitted to each light but I suppose that would cost to implement.
Street lights do have a sensor on them already, they come on automatically at dusk and off at dawn - so maybe that sensor can be adapted somehow??
On further thought, if the Councils will be saving all that money on electric ..... will everyones council tax bill be reduced?? !!
WOW! Did you see that pig fly past your window just then too!!!! :)